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6.
Minutes
14:30
Anna Zarycka is opening
the Warsaw BRT
Anna Zarycka (the main Warsaw Business RoundTable
organiser, OPI) opens the 2nd BRT and introduces the moderator and experts:
- moderator: Dr Leszek Chmielewski, National Contact Point; Institute of
Fundamental Technological Research, Polish Academy of Sciences
- Prof. Mieczysaw Muraszkiewicz, Institute for Computer and Information
Engineering
- Prof. Krzysztof Marasek, Polish-Japanese Institute of Information Technology
- Dr Marek Maniecki, Globema
The
Experts
Anna Zarycka presents the idea of organising BRT by OPI -
Information Processing Centre and introduces the ACTeN project
goals.
14:35
Words of welcome by Christian Bauer
Words of welcome from ACTeN Consortium by Christian
Bauer (International Centre for New Media).
14:40
Moderator is presenting the idea
of ACTeN BRT Moderator Dr Leszek Chmielewski from Institute of
Fundamental Technological Research, Polish Academy of Sciences presents the
rules of BRT.
Business Round Table is organised in a form of strongly
moderated workshop. The topic of 2nd BRT is mobile multimedia and mobile
telecommunication. The BRT has two goals: to represent the most useful
results of 5FP in the mobile multimedia and to discuss them with businessmen and
multimedia producers, to get the information of their needs in multimedia
technology and tools and to define the problems. Dr Chmielewski introduces
the 5th and 6th Framework Programmes of UE. The 5th Framework Program is
finished and the 6th FP has already started. These programmes are strongly
oriented on practical use. The profits for participants are: to know the new
technologies and tools, to express their needs and to know the need of the
others, to have an influence on the research works in 6th FP and to get the
contact with experts.
14.50 Dr Chmielewski introduces
Mirosaw Brzozowy from the Polish Digital Telephony Ltd - ERA who presents
ERA GSM achievements in mobile communication. ERA GSM is one of three mobile
telephony operators in Poland. In 1996 in Poland the mobile telecommunication
started. Now there are three GSM operators. The current state of telephony is
between the 2G (generation) and 3G mobile telecommunication. The 4G is now
researched and tested. The main trends are the growing focus on data
transmission and data exchange services (packet transmission), the IP net
transmission, the growing role of phone memory and more interactions with the
other tools.
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Mr Brzozowy
is speaking about future trends of mobile telephony
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applications in mobile phones and the localisation abilities are also growing.
The services of information, games, e-business is getting more popular. The
most important standards in current and future trends are GPRS, EDGE and WLAN.
GPRS (transmission to 115 Kb/sec) is commercially implemented for two years and
is used in many services, e.g. Internet access. EDGE (do 384 KB) is now getting
implemented in USA mostly based on 2G infrastructure. WLAN (to 2Mb) is a rather
cheap technology. It can be used complementary to 3G mobile phones - audio/video
services. Mr Brzozowy points out when the capacity of net is growing the costs
of transmission are getting smaller. The system is developed parallel to growing
tool abilities and better use of transmission band. The development of mobile
communication depends on economic (cost of service), technical, social (fashion,
subculture) factors. The integration with the other tools is very important. As
the last part of presentation Mr Brzozowy presents topics of the mobile
telecommunication in the 5th and 6th Framework Program - the IST thematic group
in 5th and 6th FP, the ambient intelligence conception and new instruments in
the 6th FP.
15.00 Dr Chmielewski introduces Mr Maciej
Kolodziejczak from RealNetworks, Eastern Europe. Maciej Kolodziejczak is
a Business Partner Manager, RealNetworks, Eastern Europe Realnetworks is a
leader in Internet media sector as an implementor of streaming. Streaming is a
technology of transmission audio/video signal through IP net with no need of
waiting for downloading the file. This technology is the most needed by users of
mobile tools (especially phones). Streaming is the most effective way of
transmission in IP nets. The one second signal is transmitted as a picture of
176*144*8 bit colour (24,75 Kb). The companies use streaming for internal
communication with employees, clients, partners, outdoor users.
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Mr
Kolodziejczak is showing the live streaming transmission of TVN24 channel on his
mobile phone | Now and future
of mobile telecommunication is high quality live transmission. From 1995 to
2000 investing in streaming was based on the attraction and innovativeness of
the product, in 2000-2002 investors were focusing on the position on the market,
from now the investment is giving profits. During his presentation Mr
Kolodziejczak demonstrated the signal of TVN24 (news and business Polish
television channel) on his mobile phone. It was the live transmission on GPRS
medium, 20kbps signal in RealVideo 8 compression. Every participant could watch
it.
The streaming
transmission to moblie phone
15.10 Dr Chmielewski welcomes
Krystyna Rudowska, ATVN Academic Internet Television is a new Internet
channel with only scientific content. The programs are prepared in the ICM
(Interdisciplinary Centre for Mathematical and Computational Modelling) unit of
the University of Warsaw and transmitted via Internet all over the world. In the
same time the multimedia library with the Internet access is built. The most
important task was to solve problems of special conditions of Internet
transmission, the compression level, audio/video transmission standards and
audience preferences. How to transmit via Internet without any loss of quality?
The ATVN transmission uses the RealMedia compression. The quality of broadcast
transmission is as good as before the compression.
ATVN Website The ATVN programs are transmitted in real time on stable
hours. After 24 hours the program is available from archives. The average
audience (70%) is watching ATVN programs from archives.
Dr Chmielewski is
asking the question to Mr Kolodziejczak (RealNetworks): Are there any technical
problems the Internet television like ATVN has to face with? Mr
Kolodziejczak: Not every user has the computer with the sound hardware. The
other problem is that it is very difficult to get the proper transmission via
modem. The streaming is prepared for users of permanent links to the server. The
content is only scientific so it will be difficult to attract a broad
audience.
15.20 Dr Chmielewski welcomes the expert, Dr Marek
Maniecki from Globema Ltd. to give a presentation.
The topic is GIS
Data Warehouse - experiences from EDITH Project. EDITH - European
Development on Indexing Techniques for Databases with Multidimensional
Hierarchies was a 5th FP research project (1.10.1999 - 30. 11. 2002). The Polish
Partner of project was Globema Sp. z o.o (Ltd.). The goal of project was
developing and implementing the new method of organisation and accessing to
multidimensional data in relational databases.
Dr Maniecki is presenting GIS
Data Warehouse It was verified in two applications: data warehouse and
systems of geographical reserve management. The key was making the commercial
product. The MHC/HI Multidimensional Hierarchical Clustering/Hierarchy
Interleaving method is a multidimensional hierarchical indexing and grouping of
data. The task of Globema was the business analysis - selection of questions,
data model definition, design and implementation of two test environments for
GIS (Geographical Information System) geographical reserves management. How
can it be used for mobile multimedia industry? It should answer for many
questions e.g. how many clients use their mobile phones in one time in one
place? What is the geographical situation of the particular area - if the client
is going to start his business there? The telecommunication industry implemented
the solutions found in the EDITH Project.
15.30
Moderator i s opening the panel
discussion Dr Chmielewski initiates the BRT panel discussion with
the topic: ''Quo Vadis Multimedia?'' and introduces the presentation held
by the multimedia expert Prof. Mieczyslaw Muraszkiewicz from Institute
for Computer and Information Engineering. The multimedia product is a
recorded discussion involving many forms of describing/representation of the
world. It can use every format - text, image, sound, animation, video, and
virtual reality - on every data medium - hard discs, CD-ROMs, DVD, websites etc.
The digitalisation of information, unification and integration of media,
quick-access memory servers, and the growing role of virtual world in our life
has the most important influence on the multimedia development. Why do we like
multimedia? Because it is a model of ideal partner - it gives an intimacy (face
to face), its is interactive, nice, assertive and in fashion. The multimedia
creation and distribution are determined by technology.
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Prof.
Muraszkiewicz: ''Why do we like multimedia?''
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technically - on the middle level, but the level of content is still low. There
is no specific ''language'' for the multimedia but it is on the proper way to
describe its own specialisation, especially games, dictionaries, encyclopaedias.
The difference between the image and reality are getting less and less clear.
The mind of user becomes a computer monitor. The new worlds and orders are
discovered - data mining, knowledge discovery. We are going from the culture of
creating/recording to the culture of simulation - virtual reality. The diffusion
of plots is created by MTV video-clip culture. It stimulates the human
perception and sensual exciting but the danger is that the artificial world
creates the emptiness and anxiousness.
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The
interactive avatars are future oh multimedia
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Dr Chmielewski introduces
the multimedia expert Prof. Krzysztof Marasek from the Japanese Institute
of Information Technology Prof. Marasek points out that the most important thing
is the communication between the computer and the user. It should be like we are
used to contact with the other people. He presents the new projects of the voice
processing systems and projects of ''touch transmission'' via mobile tools. In
future the most popular will be the interactive multimedia avatars used as an
integral part of interfaces.
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Prof.
Marasek: ''The most important thing is communication''
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Dr Chmielewski starts the
panel discussion. He asks the experts to express their remarks. Dr Maniecki
agrees with the conception that only profitable actions are developed and the
economical factors decide mostly about multimedia development. Many
predictions become false - for example the videoconferences and WAP services are
not as popular as it was stated few years ago. But unexpectedly the SMS's are
the biggest hit in mobile telecommunication. The most important thing about
the mobile multimedia is the userís privacy. When I use the mobile phone the Big
Brother can watch me. The problem of privacy can become a limit in mobile
multimedia development. On the other hand the mobile multimedia can be very
useful in many fields of industry. The mobile tools (image, voice) should be
included in the control equipment for example for electrical tools
detecting.
Dr Chmielewski described the topics for discussion: the common
usage of mobile multimedia, the quality of information and what is more
important - technology or users needs. What is the state of technology for now
and where we are?
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Prof.
Muraszkiewicz: ''We haven't got technologies but the technologie have us''
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Prof. Muraszkiewicz: ''The
fact is, that we haven't got technologies, but technologies have us''. He quoted
Neil Postman, British sociologist who said that techniques and technologies are
never ideologically neutral. He also pointed the question of privacy -
multimedia is named as technology of freedom. He is free to decide of getting
into the community of users but he is also free to put the mobile phone down and
keep his privacy.
Prof. Marasek: What multimedia should look like in
context of ACTeN acronym - Anticipating Content Technology Needs? The services
should be personalised, the content oriented on concrete group of users. The
situation now is that the multimedia producers do not focus on the real users
needs. The multimedia products should keep the social code, present the content
the same way we are used to get from the other people. The current state of
technology is not ready yet. Even the best quality of picture/sound doesn't
represent the extraverbal content.
Dr Chmielewski pointed on the topic
that should be worked on - the need of keeping user's privacy, the diffusion of
real world and simulation. Is it really important in mobile
multimedia?
Prof. Muraszkiewicz: As far as it is multimedia online, it is
fundamental.
Dr Chmielewski asked if the real world would be replaced by
virtual simulation. Do the government have to limit it? Or financially support?
Prof. Marasek: It is similar to Internet, nobody can stop it. The mixed
systems (e.g. the special glasses for indoor arrangement) are very
useful.
Prof. Muraszkiewicz: It cannot be limited. It is the first chance
to create my own complete worlds, to express my mind, my feelings to the others.
To answer the question - who I am? Everyone now can express it thanks to
multimedia. Dr Chmielewski: And now the technological aspect. Is the capacity
the only technical problem? Are 3G and 4G systems going to satisfy our all
needs? Mr Brzozowy (ERA): The most important problem is cost. Not many points
at that, but the real costs are very high. More capacity is more expensive. The
technology is higher priority than the user needs and it is wrong. The
development of technology should be dedicated to future practical applications.
Mr Kolodziejczak (Real Networks): RealNetworks uses maximally the existing
technology. Prof. Chmielewski: And what if the capacity was better,
cheaper? Mr Ko„odziejczak (Real Networks): If everyone could create the
transmission for example 2GB streaming, everyone would have his own television
station. The only limit is the cost of hosting. Prof. Chmielewski: How to
browse images? How to index it? Prof. Muraszkiewicz: It is the question of
future. Prof. Marasek: There is some development in this field. The TV news
is converted into text, the films are automatically summarised, but now it is
made only as scientific tests. Prof. Chmielewski: What are the other
problems? Dr Maniecki: Existing technology satisfies many needs but the
question is if the people want to pay for that. Everyone is used to free
Internet content but it has to earn for itself. Is the television streaming via
IP nets profitable? Mr Kolodziejczak (Real Networks): Yes, TVN24 in the
Internet is profitable. In our times the corporations run only the profitable
business. The streaming gives the profit for operator in 3-4 months.
16.20 Anna Zarycka (OPI) invites participants for coffee
break.
16.30 After the break Dr Chmielewski introduces
Renata Soko„owska from Custom Service of the Republic of Poland.
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Mrs
Sokolowska is presenting the WAP Service of Polish Customs Service
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services of Custom Service of the Republic of Poland. The WAP service was
implemented in 2001, the SMS and the voice service - in 2002. The updating is
constant from every border of Republic of Poland. The content is the current
time of waiting on the borders, the money exchange rates and the addresses data
of custom offices. The WAP service was awarded with the Golden Website for the
best Polish WAP service and with the EuroPrix Award in 2001 in the Mobile
Multimedia category. The Custom Service staff is always looking for the new
trends and technologies and is ready to implement it.
Mr Kolodziejczak
(Real Networks) is asking the question to Mrs Soko„owska: What is the most
popular - WAP, SMS or Voice Service? Mrs Sokolowska: The SMS is most popular,
because it is the cheapest and easiest. Not every phone has the WAP activates
and the voice service is available only for the ERA
users.
16.40 Dr Chmielewski introduces Mr Dariusz
Krupski and Mr Rafal Soin from Learning Lab. Presentation of
Tegrity Software Tegrity is the system for multimedia education and
workshops. The most important is the software. The lecturer doesn't need the
mouse, laptop or keyboard for navigate, the special camera notices his hand on
the screen. The lecture can be recorded and updated, the camera records it on
the hard disc or CD-ROM and it can be further
disseminated.
16.50 Dr Chmielewski introduces Mrs Dorota
Myko from WINT (Edition House & New Technologies)
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Mrs Myko is
presenting the World Education Market | Mrs Myko speaks about mobile multimedia in context of education and
introduces the WORLD EDUCATION MARKET (WEM), the most important education fairs
in the world for the education managers. At the WEM many topics are discussed,
especially the application of the new media in the education system. Multimedia
on CD-ROM, DVD, Internet and transmission via satellites and mobile phones are
the platforms that are included in modern education. The most important is to
get on the way of new media, new information platform and to make it
profitable.
17.00 Dr Chmielewski initiates the concluding
discussion: What is the main profit of mobile multimedia?
Moderator is starting the final
discussion Mr Kolodziejczak (Real Networks): You can choose your
favourite content. Not everyone can make his own content. At work we have
permanent access to the freshest business information. Dr Chmielewski: If the
information has no users it is lost. Prof. Marasek: The mobile multimedia
gives the feeling of participation wherever the user is. Dr Maniecki: The
user should have the choice what he wants to watch what tools he can use. Dr
Chmielewski: What is the most problem of mobile multimedia? Mr Kolodziejczak
(Real Networks): During the panel discussion you were saying that the human mind
might become the computer monitor. I think that there is a danger of
manipulation. Do you think that the mind manipulating and the remote controlling
through multimedia are possible?
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Mr
Kolodziejczak is asking if there is a danger of mind manipulating by
multimedia? | Prof. Marasek:
Fortunately, it is not. There are only the projects for paralysed people, who
can choose the letters on the screen when thinking about it. Dr Chmielewski:
But there is always the danger of manipulation between the text and its picture
in human mind. It is a difference between perception and consumption. Any other
problems? Prof. Marasek: The cost. The cost of terminal, the cost of access.
Most of us do not want to pay many times; we want to pay once and never
again. Dr Maniecki: The ability of using. Many people don't know how to use
WAP services, so it is not as popular as it was recommended before. Dr
Chmielewski: When I use WAP I feel like reading the newspaper or watching
''Battle of Grunwald'' (one of the most famous Polish painting from 19th century
by Jan Matejko) through the keyhole.
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Moderator:
''Using WAP is like reading the newspaper through the keyhole''
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was implemented too early, without the proper market research. For now the most
popular mobile service is SMS. Dr Chmielewski: It was the pressure from the
producers, not from users. The producers were pushing on clients. The content
cannot catch the technology and the producers ignore the real needs of
users. Dr Chmielewski says that the mobile multimedia is the fascinating
topic but the time is running.
17.30 Dr Chmielewski ends the
discussion and thanks the participants and organisers.
Anna Zarycka is ending the
Warsaw BRT Anna Zarycka (OPI) thanks the experts and participants,
invites the participants for the co-operation and contact. She announces the
next year BRT and says goodbye.
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